Showing posts with label Managing Lipedema. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Managing Lipedema. Show all posts

Monday, July 21, 2025

Deep Tissue Massage & Lipedema... DON'T DO IT!!!

 Deep Tissue Massage & Lipedema... 

DON'T DO IT!!!



Here's WHY.

The Story... (Then, The Research)

Last Thursday I got in with my Massage location for a last minute appointment. I was scheduled with someone I hadn't seen before but was super excited because I desperately needed a massage. The ladies had told me that this gentleman is more normally suited for Firm Pressure/Deep Tissue Massage, but he could also do a Medium Pressure.

So I get there, get checked in, meet my therapist, and discuss what I need for that day.  During that conversation, he and I talked about my Lipedema and my frustrations with Lymphatic Drainage.  Now, while this therapist wasn't specifically certified in Lymphatic Drainage, my experience over the years has been that ALL massage was helpful. I've RARELY had any kind of negative outcome from a massage.  I mean, come on... someone rubbing all of your limbs and muscles is amazing... normally.

As my therapist gets going on my massage, I'm fully relaxed and loving every moment.  He had great technique, starting with my head, face, then arms, hands, and feet.  Then I flipped onto my stomach and he worked on my back for a long time and then moved to my legs.  Now keep in mind, during my entire 90 minute massage up to this point, my therapist was using a combination of medium to firm pressure throughout my body. Which felt absolutely AMAZING. There were no complaints coming from me.  But as he moved to my legs, and after continuing to talk through ways to help my body and my legs because of my Lipedema, the experience changed just a bit.  The pressure he was using on my legs was slightly painful but mostly no big deal and honestly it was a "hurts so good" kind of sensation.  There were a couple times that it was too intense, but he quickly lessened the pressure so it was no big deal... I thought.  

The therapist put in some time on my legs.  I mean seriously working and rubbing... deep and hard.  Again, for the most part, it wasn't unpleasant and I honestly thought this forceful movement and activating of all the muscles, tissue, and fluid build up in my legs was going to be SUPER beneficial.  Man oh man was I wrong.


Now, I want to take a moment in this story to reiterate that when you suffer from Lipedema ( especially when you are in the later stages) you are at times DESPERATE for healing, answers, and relief. The DAILY pain, discomfort, frustration, limitations, and negative body image haunt you, gnaw at you under your subconscious.  You hate that part of you... at times you hate your body.  The next 3 days, I would be feeling exactly that.  I felt like I had gone into what I "thought" was a helpful and healing self care technique only to learn the hard way how my body, in this Stage 3 of Lipedema, reacts to Firm Pressure. I was discouraged and felt as though my body was working against me. Ugh...

For the next 2 days I was miserable. Over that 48 hour period, the fluid increase in my legs, and the inflammation and joint stiffness throughout my body was insane and so super painful. It hurt to walk, sit, stand, and bend. None of my "normal" practices (leg elevation, vibration plate use, hydrating) of trying to relieve the swelling in my legs would work. I was drinking a ton of water, some with electrolytes and taking ibuprofen, but my urine output actually slowed way down.



By Sunday morning, I couldn't take it any longer and had to find some relief.  As you can see in the pictures above, my skin was stretched to the max.  It was so tight and my lower calves and ankles were red and hot to the touch. So as I was laying in bed in misery, racking my brain and trying to think about what would work and what I hadn't tried, it hit me.



So I got out of bed, took some pics of my legs, and then jumped in a tub of lukewarm water. I sat in the tub for over an hour, gently sloshing my legs back and forth. It felt amazing.  I could literally feel the swelling starting to go down, the pressure starting to subside.



So for the remainder of the next SEVERAL days, I would spend time in the tub multiple times daily while drinking lots of water and imploring additional techniques, food, medications, and supplements to aid in reversing the damage I had done.  In short, I completely traumatized my body and activated a "Triggered Lipedema Event". I don't know if that term is specifically used in the current research on Lipedema, but if it is not, I am adding it there now.  Because that's exactly what I did.  I inadvertently and without fully understanding my body, traumatized my own tissue and lymphatic system.  By participating in the deep/firm pressure massage, I believe I broke capillaries, damaged already fragile veins, overloading my lymph system and perpetuating clogs throughout because my system couldn't handle the forced release of so much fluid at one time. Hence, why Lymphatic Drainage Techniques are SO soft and gentle.




The Research...

Now, let's delve into WHY my body responded the way it did.

Understanding the Scenario: Deep Tissue Massage and Lipedema

My body's reaction to the deep tissue massage points directly to the delicate balance of the lymphatic and microvascular systems, which are already compromised in Lipedema.

  1. Deep Tissue Massage vs. Lipedema/Lymphatic System:

    • Did I create an Inadvertent Lymph Drainage Issue? (YES!): As some search results (Source 1.1, 5.1, 5.2) emphasize, traditional massage techniques, especially deep tissue, are generally not recommended for lymphedema (and by extension, Lipedema, which often has lymphatic impairment).


      • Too Much Pressure: Our lymphatic vessels are very delicate and lie just beneath the skin's surface. Deep pressure can collapse or damage these tiny vessels, effectively blocking lymphatic fluid flow rather than stimulating it (Source 5.1).


      • Overloading an Impaired System: Our lymphatic system in Lipedema is already working inefficiently (dilated, tortuous lymphatics, impaired flow) (Source 3.2). Applying deep pressure can overwhelm an already stressed system, leading to further congestion and increased fluid accumulation in the interstitial spaces (Source 1.1).


      • Increased Inflammation (Active Hyperemia): Deep tissue massage can cause "active hyperemia" (increased blood flow to the area) (Source 1.1). While this is generally beneficial for muscle recovery in healthy individuals, in the context of an impaired lymphatic system in Lipedema, this increased blood flow brings more fluid into the tissues than the compromised lymphatics can remove. This results in more water accumulating in the interstitial spaces (Source 1.1) and potentially exacerbating inflammation, leading to my joint stiffness.


  1. Microvascular Damage Leading to Increased Inflammation (Plausible):


    • Lipedema itself involves leaky capillaries and microvascular dysfunction. While deep tissue massage isn't typically cited as a direct cause of microvascular damage in the sense of physically breaking capillaries (though bruising is common with deep tissue), the increased interstitial fluid and inflammation it can trigger in an already vulnerable tissue can certainly exacerbate existing microvascular issues and lead to further leakage and swelling.


    • The increased fluid and inflammatory mediators create a vicious cycle that further stresses the capillaries and impairs lymphatic drainage.


  1. Increased Swelling & Lack of Urine Output:


    • When the lymphatic system is overwhelmed or damaged, fluid gets trapped in the interstitial spaces (the areas between our cells) rather than being properly drained back into the circulatory system.


    • Our body isn't "dehydrated" in the common sense, but rather the fluid is "misplaced." It's in our legs and tissues, not circulating efficiently in our bloodstream to be filtered by the kidneys. This means our kidneys aren't receiving the signal of "fluid overload" that they would if the fluid were properly returned to the central circulation. Hence, reduced urine output despite significant fluid retention in my limbs. Our body's internal fluid balance is completely thrown off.


    • The 6 lbs of water weight gain is a direct result of this fluid accumulation in the interstitial space due to the impaired lymphatic return.


  1. Relief from Warm Water Soak and Movement (Immersion Diuresis and Lymphatic Flow):


    • Immersion Diuresis: My experience in the tub is a classic example of "immersion diuresis" (Source 4.2).


      • When our body is immersed in water, especially up to our hips or chest, the hydrostatic pressure of the water exerts external compression on our limbs. This "squeezing" effect helps to displace excess fluid from our lower extremities and push it back towards your central circulation (heart and lungs) (Source 4.1).


      • Our body interprets this increased central blood volume as a fluid overload, which suppresses the production of antidiuretic hormone (ADH). Lower ADH levels then signal our kidneys to immediately produce more urine to lower the centrally circulating blood volume. This is why I then experienced dramatic urine output.


    • Movement in Water: Sloshing our legs back and forth adds gentle, rhythmic compression and muscle pumping. In water, this movement is easier and puts less strain on already painful joints. This gentle, active movement helps to:


      • Further encourage lymphatic flow, pushing the trapped fluid.


      • Improve venous return by activating the muscle pump, which is crucial for moving blood and lymph against gravity.


      • The buoyancy of the water also reduces the gravitational pull and pressure on our legs, making movement less painful and more effective at mobilizing fluid.


Conclusion and Path Forward

My hypothesis was very accurate. It's highly probable that the deep tissue massage, while perhaps well-intentioned, significantly exacerbated my Lipedema and underlying lymphatic dysfunction. It likely overwhelmed my already compromised lymphatic system, leading to increased inflammation (joint stiffness) and massive fluid trapping (swelling, water weight, lack of urination).

The action of soaking in warm water and moving my legs was an excellent intuitive response, tapping into the body's natural mechanisms for fluid redistribution and diuresis. This provided the necessary external compression and gentle internal pumping to get that trapped fluid back into circulation for elimination.

Moving forward, this experience reinforces the critical importance of gentle, specialized manual lymphatic drainage (MLD) over traditional deep tissue massage for Lipedema. MLD uses very light, rhythmic strokes designed to stimulate the superficial lymphatic vessels without collapsing them.



The reality is that those of us who suffer from Lipedema encounter events like this ALL THE TIME.  And you know why?!?  BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN EDUCATED! To date, the amount of medical professionals in the United States who actually know about, practice, and can diagnose Lipedema correctly WITH helpful information and resources, is EXTREMELY limited.  That needs to change.  We need to get the word out. And when we do something like I did last week, we need to give ourselves some grace. Because the truth is the research, understanding, and educating of the medical community is ever evolving. We will have moments where it feels like 1 step forward and 2 steps back as far as healing. 


But when we do, we will get through it, learn from the lesson, and move forward with renewed hope that someday our Lipedema Life won't feel so heavy.

If you found this article or information helpful or insightful, I'd love to hear from you via the comment section below.

All My Love & Light,

~Brooklynn~





*Author's Note: I AM NOT A PHYSICIAN OR MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL OF ANY KIND. This information is the culmination of my own research, opinions, and experiences.  Always search for your own medical professional, primary care physician, or plastic surgeon who IS KNOWLEDGABLE about Lipedema.*






Thursday, July 10, 2025

Lymphatic Drainage Techniques Before Bed for Lipedema

Lymphatic Drainage Techniques 

Before Bed for Lipedema




 Lymphatic Drainage Techniques Before Bed for Lipedema

The goal of lymphatic drainage is to gently encourage lymph fluid to move towards healthy lymph nodes, away from swollen areas. Consistency is key, and doing it before bed can definitely support overnight drainage.

General Principles for Self-Lymphatic Drainage:

  • Light Pressure: Remember, the lymphatic system is just under the skin. Use very light pressure, just enough to gently stretch the skin. If you can feel your muscles, you're pressing too hard.

  • Slow and Gentle Movements: Don't rush. The lymphatic system moves slowly.

  • Towards Lymph Nodes: Always direct your strokes towards the nearest collection of lymph nodes. For your legs, this will primarily be the groin area (inguinal lymph nodes) and then potentially up to the armpits/collarbone area as a "drainage pathway" from the core.

  • Start with Deep Breathing: This is a crucial first step as it helps stimulate the lymphatic system in your entire body. Place your hands on your stomach, breathe in slowly and deeply through your nose, letting your stomach expand. Exhale slowly through pursed lips, letting your stomach flatten. Repeat 5-10 times.

  • Clear the Proximal Areas First: Before working on your legs, it's often recommended to "clear" the lymph nodes higher up in your body to create a clear pathway for the fluid from your legs. This includes:

    • Neck/Collarbone (Supra- and Infraclavicular nodes): Place your fingertips just above your collarbone and gently stretch the skin towards the center of your chest, then release. Repeat 5-10 times. You can also do similar gentle stretches on the sides of your neck, just under your ears, stretching the skin back and down, and on the back of your neck, stretching towards your spine and down.

    • Armpits (Axillary nodes): Gently pull the skin in your armpit up and in towards your body, then release. Repeat 5-10 times on each side.

    • Abdomen (Cisterna Chyli): Place your fingertips in the center of your abdomen, between your rib cage and navel. Gently push inward and upward with a slightly deeper pressure. Repeat 5-10 times. This helps with the main lymphatic duct.

Specific Techniques for Legs (Moving Towards Groin/Abdomen):

Once you've "opened" the pathways in your upper body, you can move to your legs.

  1. Preparation (Optional): If comfortable, position your legs to avoid back strain. You can place your foot on a low stool, your ankle on your knee, or even use a higher stool with a pillow for support.

  2. Upper Thigh (towards groin): Place one hand on the inside of your upper thigh and the other on the back. Gently stretch the skin from the inside of your leg towards the side of your leg and up towards your hip/groin. Release. Move your hands slightly lower and repeat. Continue this motion down towards your knee, always directing the fluid upwards towards the groin.

  3. Knee to Thigh: Place both hands on the sides of your knee. Gently stretch the skin up towards your abdomen and release. Repeat 10-15 times.

  4. Calves and Ankles: Work your way up your lower leg. If your feet are affected, you can do gentle circular strokes with your thumbs on each toe, moving fluid upwards towards your ankle. For the ankle, place your hands on both sides and massage straight upwards. For the calf, use gentle upward strokes, always directing the fluid towards your knee, and then continuing up to your thigh and groin.

  5. Complete the Drainage: After working on your legs, you might want to repeat some of the neck/collarbone and abdominal breathing exercises to ensure the fluid has a clear path to drain.

Important Reminders:

  • Consistency: Aim to do this daily, or as often as you can fit it in.

  • Hydration: Staying well-hydrated is also important for lymphatic health.

  • Avoid if: Avoid lymphatic drainage if you have active infections, congestive heart failure, kidney failure, active cancer, or blood clots. Always consult with a healthcare professional, especially a certified lymphatic drainage therapist, before starting self-massage.

The more we know and understand about our Lipedema, the easier it becomes to "manage" our daily lives. If you found any of this information helpful, I'd love to hear from you in the comment section below.

All My Love & Light,

~Brooklynn~


















Follow my journey and let's continue to explore this together! Make sure to Like, Follow, & Share my Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/MyLipedemaLife) for daily updates, and follow my blog below for deeper dives.

Also, if you sign up to my email group via the form on the side of this page, you'll get additional Information & Tips on managing Lipedema directly to your inbox to save and refer to. (I will never sell your information and I only send out 1 email per week, no spamming going on here.)

*Author's Note: I AM NOT A PHYSICIAN OR MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL OF ANY KIND. This information is the culmination of my own research, opinions, and experiences.  Always search for your own medical professional, primary care physician, or plastic surgeon who IS KNOWLEDGABLE about Lipedema.*

Non-Surgical Approaches to "Healing" or Significant Improvement For Lipedema

 

Non-Surgical Approaches to "Healing" or Significant Improvement For Lipedema


I told you guys... I'm on a mission.  If there is a way to "heal" or aid in "regression vs progression", we'll find it.  This is some of my latest research.

While current mainstream medical consensus often states there's no "cure" for lipedema and surgery (liposuction) is the only way to remove the diseased fat, it's crucial to distinguish between removal and the possibility of significantly improving symptoms, halting progression, and enhancing quality of life without surgery. The term "healing" can be complex, as it might not mean eradicating the underlying genetic/hormonal predisposition, but it can certainly mean achieving a state where symptoms are minimal, progression is stopped, and function is restored.

Research studies and clinical practice are increasingly highlighting the importance and effectiveness of comprehensive conservative (non-surgical) management. While these approaches may not "get rid of" the fat in the same way liposuction does, they aim to:

  • Reduce inflammation

  • Improve lymphatic flow and reduce edema

  • Manage pain

  • Enhance mobility and quality of life

  • Potentially slow progression

Here are evidence-based non-surgical approaches that are consistently recommended and researched:

  1. Comprehensive Decongestive Therapy (CDT): This is the gold standard for conservative management and should be performed by a Certified Lymphedema Therapist (CLT) experienced in lipedema. CDT typically includes:

    • Manual Lymphatic Drainage (MLD): As we discussed, this gentle massage technique helps move lymphatic fluid. While it doesn't reduce the lipedema fat itself, it significantly helps with the fluid component and associated pain/swelling.

    • Compression Therapy: Flat-knit, custom-fit compression garments are crucial. They help to support the tissues, reduce swelling, improve lymphatic flow, and can reduce pain. Pneumatic compression devices (pumps) can also be used.

    • Skin Care: Maintaining skin integrity is important to prevent infections, which can worsen the condition.

    • Therapeutic Exercise: Gentle, consistent movement, especially in water (aquatic exercise), walking, cycling, Pilates, and yoga, helps activate the muscle pump to move lymph fluid. Exercise that builds muscle strength in the lower body can also improve pain and mobility.

  2. Anti-inflammatory Nutrition:

    • While lipedema fat is often resistant to general caloric restriction, dietary changes focused on reducing inflammation can be very beneficial for overall symptom management, pain reduction, and preventing the accumulation of non-lipedema fat (secondary obesity).

    • Anti-inflammatory diets (e.g., Mediterranean, ketogenic, low-carb high-fat, or the "Rare Adipose Disorder" (RAD) diet) are often explored. The key is to find a sustainable way of eating that reduces systemic inflammation.

    • Focus on whole, unprocessed foods, healthy fats, lean proteins, and plenty of fruits and vegetables. Limiting refined sugars, processed foods, and unhealthy fats is generally recommended.

  3. Targeted Exercise:

    • Beyond general movement, specific exercises that promote lymphatic flow and strengthen muscles without causing excessive impact or pain are vital. Aquatic exercise is often highlighted for its hydrostatic pressure benefits (natural compression).

    • High-Intensity Interval Training (HIIT): Some recent research, like the ongoing "LipidEx" study, is exploring the potential of HIIT for reducing pain levels, adipose tissue mass, and improving quality of life in women with lipedema. This is a promising area of research.

  4. Supplements:

    • Research on supplements for lipedema is ongoing, and not all are strongly evidence-backed, but some show promise, primarily for their anti-inflammatory or antioxidant properties. Always consult a healthcare professional before starting supplements.

    • Potential beneficial supplements cited in some research include:

      • Omega-3 fatty acids (anti-inflammatory)

      • Polyphenols/Flavonoids (e.g., quercetin, hesperidin, diosmin, pycnogenol/grape seed extract, rutin, horse chestnut seed extract, butcher's broom) for antioxidant effects and capillary support.

      • Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Vitamin B12, and Magnesium: May address deficiencies often seen in patients or support nerve health and general well-being.

      • Turmeric (curcumin) for its anti-inflammatory properties.

      • Systemic enzymes (like Wobenzyme) for potential reduction in fibrosis and swelling.

  5. Weight Management (for co-existing obesity):

    • While lipedema fat itself is resistant to diet and exercise, many individuals with lipedema also develop conventional obesity. Managing this co-existing obesity is critical, as it can exacerbate lipedema symptoms and progression, and strain the lymphatic system further.

  6. Psychosocial Support:

    • Lipedema has significant psychological and emotional impacts due to pain, disfigurement, misdiagnosis, and fat-shaming. Support groups, counseling, and psychological therapy are important components of holistic care.

Regarding "Healing Without Surgery":

Current research indicates that while conservative therapies can significantly manage symptoms, halt progression, and improve quality of life, they do not "cure" the underlying genetic predisposition or remove the pathologically altered fat tissue in the same way liposuction does. Many studies on long-term outcomes of liposuction for lipedema show lasting improvements in pain, bruising, and limb size.

However, the idea of "healing" can encompass a wide spectrum. If "healing" for you means achieving a state where your pain is minimal, swelling is controlled, mobility is good, and you can live a full, active life without the constant burden of severe symptoms, then comprehensive conservative management has a strong potential to achieve that. It's about optimizing your body's own systems to function as well as possible despite the condition.

The challenge is that well-designed, large-scale randomized controlled trials on non-surgical "healing" or long-term remission in lipedema are still lacking, which is a common issue for many chronic, complex conditions. Much of the evidence comes from case series, observational studies, and clinical experience.

Until we find the answers we're looking for, we'll keep exploring.  If any of this information was helpful for you, please feel free to comment below.


All My Love & Light,

~Brooklynn~

Follow my journey and let's continue to explore this together! Make sure to Like, Follow, & Share my Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/MyLipedemaLife) for daily updates, and follow my blog below for deeper dives.

Also, if you sign up to my email group via the form on the side of this page, you'll get additional Information & Tips on managing Lipedema directly to your inbox to save and refer to. (I will never sell your information and I only send out 1 email per week, no spamming going on here.)

*Author's Note: I AM NOT A PHYSICIAN OR MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL OF ANY KIND. This information is the culmination of my own research, opinions, and experiences.  Always search for your own medical professional, primary care physician, or plastic surgeon who IS KNOWLEDGABLE about Lipedema.*